A: Why did I request Edward Favre to be assigned to my office? I have known Ed professionally for sometime. And he's very active in the Lakewood community and he -- his background in law enforcement I felt would be an asset to the administration.

Q: Did Sergeant Favre have an office near yours?
A: His office was on the other side of my office.
Q: Right next door to you?
A: Across the -- within the same office.
Q: Would you talk regularly about issues that he was handling for your office?
A: Surprisingly, I would sometimes go three, four, five days without talking to Ed.

Q: Was there any policy in place from you, directed by you and handled by Ed Favre with respect to the Youth Re-entry Program and whether it should or should not stay in the City of Lakewood?
A: Yeah. Yes, there was.
Q: What was that policy?
A: That was if the Youth Re-entry Program needed -- either stayed in Lakewood or if it needed to move, it would be relocated within the city.

A: Can I tell him about my civil rights record or should we --
Q: Oh, by all means, tell me about your civil rights record.
A: You want me to show pictures of having Peter Lawson Jones swear me in as --
Q: Is that part of your civil rights record, that you were sworn in by Peter Lawson Jones?
A: If let me finish.
Q: Okay.
A: I was also the foreleader for Stephanie Tubbs-Jones when she was elected county prosecutor. I worked on Lee Fisher's staff to implement various civil rights initiatives in the Attorney General's office.
Q: Anything else?
A: There's plenty.

Q: If you look at the second page at the bottom, it says, "Fair warning: As of this date because of my concerns that the LMM Youth Re-entry Program is not performing as presented last February and that the prognosis for improvement is poor, I want you to know I will seek to have the program removed from Lakewood at the earliest possible time." So was that the policy of your administration as of February 2007?
A: Let me first be clear. I never have, to this day, completely read this letter. I can distinctly remember it was a very busy day and I was just asked to sign it. I believe that that letter should be taken in its totality.

Q: Was it your practice as the Mayor to sign letters like this that reflect administration policy without reading them?
A: We get over -- we calculate about 10,000 phone calls a month in the Mayor's office, countless communications, letters, policy procedures, practices, whatever. I very routinely signed this letter and many, many, many others.
Q: Is it your testimony that even though you said that you wanted them that you were going to remove them from Lakewood at the earliest possible time that you really didn't mean that?
A: I can just speculate that it was just saber rattling.
Q: Meaning you really didn't mean it?
A: That would be my assumption.
Q: By saber rattling, did you hope that they would voluntarily leave?
A: I would guess we're just looking for a response. My understanding was there'd been somewhat of a communications breakdown. Didn't this take place after a meeting or did it precipitate the meeting?
Q: You had a meeting May 16, 2007.

Q: Do you have a recollection then what your plan of action was going be following this May 16, 2007 meeting?
A: First, let me qualify by saying there is and always is a lot on the table of any Mayor. And I can't emphasize that enough. I don't know at that point -- you know, this had been an ongoing situation as literally dozens of other situations and issues that are going on simultaneously within the city, I'm not quite sure what our next step was at this point. I think that a lot of what probably was going through my mind was just sit through the meeting, and hope for the best, and hope that the meeting was productive and the exchange of ideas was useful.
Q: Do you have a recollection after this meeting of the administration making a decision that you would begin to apply pressure to the Youth Re-entry Program?
A: That was not a stated policy of the administration.

A: What I was getting at is I saw it as a police response.
Q: You saw the raid on May 22nd, the joint departmental raid, as a police response?
A: That's how I perceived it.